UA-167299338-1 1117517095042706 What It REALLY Takes To Be A Musical Theatre Swing | MT Swing Life on The Business of Show Business - The Business of Show Business

Episode 11

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13th May 2026

What It REALLY Takes To Be A Musical Theatre Swing | MT Swing Life on The Business of Show Business

This week Jamie is joined by Amy West and Matthew Ives — co-creators of MT Swing Life — for The Business of Show Business' first ever trio interview. Amy and Matthew have between them swung, dance captained, and choreographed on shows including Hunger Games, Back to the Future, Hairspray, Jersey Boys, Addams Family, Little Big Things and more.

They break down exactly what it takes to be a musical theatre swing — from the soft skills (calm under pressure, grace under fire) to the practical tools (cheat sheets, swing Bibles, colour-coded maps, Stage Right software). They also get into the dance captain role, why it's one of the most undervalued and underpaid in the industry, the ADHD superpower in the swing world, and how to position yourself if you want the swing life to find you.

Whether you're a performer thinking about swing work, already in a show, or just want to understand what keeps West End productions running night after night — this one's essential viewing.

🔗 Find MT Swing Life: https://www.instagram.com/mtswinglife/

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The Business of Show Business
Unpacking the skills, stories, and side hustles behind the entertainment and creative industries.
A podcast to help unpack the skills, stories, and side hustles behind the entertainment and creative industries.

So if you're ready to thrive, not just survive, in the showbiz and arts & culture sectors, you're in the right place.

A series of solo shows and interviews to help creatives with the business of show business.

Learn how to market yourself as a creative and how to boss your social media and online presence.

Great for actors, dancers, singers, producers, writers and those in the creative industries.

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Jamie Body

Jamie Body comes from a performance background having worked in TV, Film, and Theatre for 13 years. Since then Jamie has gone on to be a published entertainment journalist, worked in entertainment marketing for some of the leading shows in the West End and has covered some of the biggest events in the entertainment calendar.

Jamie gives you a 360 look at the entertainment industry with insider knowledge and expertise.